Yes artists can collborate on art by getting together to talk about art itself way it is made the qualit of the work and the possible science and philophies on behind the work. Getting a group of artists together to read on one specific artists then talking abou them or do a broad term such as beausty then work on the same type of idea that is a way to collaborate with other artists. Artists can cllaborate also by getting two or three of them togeter to work on a piece of work and bring ideas into it or possibly by passing a piece of art work along and cahnging something and handling and giving it back when something has changed then that original artists can move it in another direction whether drawing or painting.
This is answering the question from 9/26/o7
Are PACS in the outer world? are they in the self? are they some how btwn the self and the outer world? If so how could they be suspended? Is there and interface btwen them.
I am not quite sure on what is meant by the self or the outer world? In order to answer this question. Could it please be explained?
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The question about collaboration is immediately pertinent to the question about inner and outer worlds.
By "inner world" I mean the experience of thoughts, feelings, and sensations within "me". I "have" my own feelings, and so far as I know the feelings themselves exist "internally" -- I do not see them, taste them, smell them, and so on in the physical world; rather, I experience them directly: they are "mental". This inner, "mental" world is the "self".
The "outer world" by contrast is the physical world outside of my self, including my physical body and all other physical bodies. I must include in the "outer world" also other people's INNER experiences -- to them, the experience is inner, but to me it is outer. YOUR thoughts and feelings are not the same as mine (necessarily), and certainly that they are YOURS points to their not being MINE. Even if we happen to "share ideas", the existence of the idea in my mind and the existence of the idea in your mind, even of the same idea, is two occurrences, or two existences, of the idea. So far as I know, we can have the "same idea" at the same time -- if not, a lot of teaching would be pointless -- but it is not physically the same idea (since out heads are not joined); the ideas must be so to speak copies of one another.
To put it another way, as many "inner worlds" exist as their are beings which can experience their own thoughts and feelings; the outer world is the "shared" world. What is confusing about this is that for me, Jen's thoughts and feelings are part of the outer world, whereas for you they are the inner world.
This describes the distinction between the subjective realm and the objective. The objective realm is unified and singular, ultimately (that is, there is only one), whereas the subjective realm is multiple -- but each being perceives itself and its own experience as unified and singular as well as the "outer world" as unified and singular.
Now, it seems to me that philosophy art craft science are fundamentally twofold in their nature. On the one hand, philosophy itself if purely internal: it is an operation within the self. But when I speak about, or write about, philosophy, I am no longer directly engaged in philosophy. I am doing something else, I am not philosophizing.
Philosophy is a kind of thinking, and although we can see the effects of this thinking, we cannot see thinking itself.
Very similarly, art itself is self-expression. Now, the expression can be seen, tasted, touched, heard, smelled... and so art has a physical component which is critical, necessary. Art cannot be purely mental. It is based in a mental impulse, but moves from the inner world into the outer.
In the purest sense, Art is the moment the inner world meets the outer world. For the audience, art is an experience of sensation in the outer world which is carried into the inner world; for the artist, art is an experience of the inner world taking a physical form in the outer world.
Here's where the question of collaboration becomes tricky. Can two people have -- and be certain that they have -- the same impulse? The same feelings? The same thoughts? Collaboration can be a communication from mind to mind, but I don't believe it can be a true experience of unity... it might, however, so closely approach such an experience as to allow collaboration to become an analogous model of unity.
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